tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4821243838031243709.post4052602200125977097..comments2023-11-05T04:15:44.564-08:00Comments on Robert Frost's Banjo: Deportees, part 2Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15687192784861682991noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4821243838031243709.post-35598975245574921322010-05-01T08:06:43.045-07:002010-05-01T08:06:43.045-07:00Hi Sandra: It's my impression that there's...Hi Sandra: It's my impression that there's a lot of panic & craziness going on here in the States in general these days. Thanks for your kind words.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15687192784861682991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4821243838031243709.post-56662019379826941812010-04-30T21:01:59.895-07:002010-04-30T21:01:59.895-07:00These are beautiful, thoughtful posts, John. I fin...These are beautiful, thoughtful posts, John. I find myself shaking my head at all the news coming out of Arizona. It seems that panic is the order of the day.Sandra Leighhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12052047359365369942noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4821243838031243709.post-90324733670478422172010-04-30T10:07:42.609-07:002010-04-30T10:07:42.609-07:00Hi Jenean: Thanks! Glad you got something out of ...Hi Jenean: Thanks! Glad you got something out of this.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15687192784861682991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4821243838031243709.post-61776820140478185662010-04-30T10:05:08.570-07:002010-04-30T10:05:08.570-07:00Hi Soul: Thanks for your perspective. Yes, the hu...Hi Soul: Thanks for your perspective. Yes, the human trafficking issue is also a major human rights problem--agreed. Again, I believe the ultimate ways of addressing this would be thru addressing economic injustice, but I do agree that it needs to be addressed. Your experience overseas is worth mentioning for sure. However, if you or I were traveling in Arizona, do you think we'd need to have a passport or birth certificate handy in case we got pulled over for speeding (e.g.)? In the European countries you're referring to, as I understand it, everyone carries papers--in Arizona, only Hispanics or people of ethicities that might be taken as Hispanic would need to do so (in practical terms).Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15687192784861682991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4821243838031243709.post-42629369945311509302010-04-30T10:02:46.141-07:002010-04-30T10:02:46.141-07:00great commentary on a very thought-provoking issue...great commentary on a very thought-provoking issue - one which impacts each of us whether or not we happen to live in arizona!GYPSYWOMANhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03042621041213415958noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4821243838031243709.post-22928620286321826112010-04-30T08:29:50.924-07:002010-04-30T08:29:50.924-07:00John,
Thanks for the continued discussion. I bas...John,<br /><br />Thanks for the continued discussion. I basically agree about drug legalization, although I too am completely uninterested in participating. I'm coming from a basically free-market libertarian perspective, and the agribusinesses in question need to be called on the carpet for many other things as well. (The free market, IMO, must be protected from monopolies as well as government interference.)<br /><br />I was speaking, however, about human trafficking at least as much as drug trafficking. Last night after we got home I ran across <br /><a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100429/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_mexico_migrants_1" rel="nofollow">this story </a> on AP about how migrants from further south face abuse all the way up through Mexico as well as the problems around the border. <br /><br />The issues surrounding undocumented people are human rights issues, and I believe those are best addressed by the rule of just laws. Billionaires, police and congressmen ought to be subject to court and prosecution as much as day laborers. Rule of law has been breaking down on both sides of the border; it's more obvious in Mexico than the U.S. unless one lives in Arizona. The migrants are treated horribly by the "coyotes" who get them over the border, and by the businesses that hire them. If the government secures the border and aggressively prosecute companies who hire undocumented workers, we won't have to deal with the heartbreak of deportation.<br /><br />All that said, the new Arizona law seems less onerous when one actually looks at it; it's basically codifying at the state level what is already federal law. You'll have to forgive the slight snark, but <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/29/opinion/29kobach.html" rel="nofollow">here</a> is an op-ed in the New York Times by one of the lawyers who wrote it. <br /><br />Again from personal experience: When I lived overseas, I didn't leave my workplace or residence without my internal and external passports. It didn't seem unreasonable to me because I had a reason to be there. Any scary moments with police? Yes -- but I had papers, and all it was, was a small addition to my wallet.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4821243838031243709.post-32129062267544410622010-04-29T15:42:26.398-07:002010-04-29T15:42:26.398-07:00Hi Heather: Thanks--much appreciated!Hi Heather: Thanks--much appreciated!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15687192784861682991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4821243838031243709.post-51597592409824108332010-04-29T15:41:16.422-07:002010-04-29T15:41:16.422-07:00Your second post is as thought provoking as the fi...Your second post is as thought provoking as the first. I find it so easy for these hot topics to leak over into other issues that just spead into an abyss of frustration and overwhelm.zuranchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13694041762266088965noreply@blogger.com